UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA AGM

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UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA AGM

Postby VK5GR » Wed May 16, 2012 5:51 am

Everyone,

The Project Horus team will be presenting a talk on the project at the WIA AGM to be held in Mildura over the weekend of May 25-27. The talk itself will be on the Saturday, however Sunday morning we are going to be flying the balloon repeater, APRS and telemetry payloads as well. This will give conference attendees the opportunity to see launch operations as well as the chase vehicle setups we use to run these flights.

As this flight will be launching from Mildura, it will also be the first time the balloon repeater is accessible from 5 states and 4 capital cities at the same time. The footprint will extend to cover VK1-Canberra, VK2-Sydney, VK3-Melbourne, VK5-Adelaide and the NW Coast of VK7 to Burnie. The window for contacts covering that footprint will only be ~30-60 minutes at apogee. In all, 2,000,000 sqkm of SE Australia will be able to see the balloon repeater as the footprint will extend to approximately a 1600km diameter.

Horus 26 should lift off at approximately 8am AEST (revised) on Sunday 27th of May.

The FM cross band voice repeater frequencies on the balloon for this flight ARE DIFFERENT to Horus 23 so please take note:

438.900 MHz Uplink with 123Hz CTCSS (FM) ** PLEASE REMEMBER TO TURN ON YOUR CTCSS tone - otherwise you will only cause interference to others accessing the system
147.500 MHz Downlink (FM) (New Downlink channel to [hopefully] overcome some interactions between 2m/aprs and 70cm)

Net control is yet to be finalised and details will be announced closer to the day.

APRS will fly as VK5ARG-11 on 145.175 – via WIDE2-1

300baud RTTY telemetry will fly on 434.075 +/- 5kHz

Project chase teams will be VK5VZI and VK5ZM.

Regards,
Grant VK5GR (part of the VK5ZM team)

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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 Balloon Rptr Flight Sun May 27th @ WIA

Postby VK5GR » Sun May 20, 2012 7:40 pm

We can now confirm the flight number. After a successful test flight of one of our telemetry systems today, the next launch in the series will be Horus 26!

Looking forward to seeing people at the AGM and talking to you all on the flying cross-band repeater.

For the Twitter followers, keep watching hashtag #ProjectHorus as well as our blog website www.projecthorus.org
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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 Balloon Rptr Flight Sun May 27th @ WIA

Postby VK2ZRH » Sun May 20, 2012 7:42 pm

Looking forward to it, Grant.

See you at the AGM.

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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 Balloon Rptr Flight Sun May 27th @ WIA

Postby VK5GR » Tue May 22, 2012 5:38 am

For those going to the AGM and planning on chasing the balloon, make sure you are well equipped for remote areas. It could be a long flight :-)

It is quite possible there will be NO CELLULAR where you will be going and no VHF coverage from Mildura. HF Mobile would be worth considering.
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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK5GR » Tue May 22, 2012 8:48 pm

Folks,

The Project Horus group has some breaking news on the High Altitude Balloon Flights currently planned for this weekend!

As already announced, the balloon carrying the amateur radio repeaters, designated HORUS-26 - will be lifting off Sunday morning. The lift off time for this balloon has been revised back to 8AM AEST. This flight will carry the radio repeater, the APRS tracker and the RTTY telemetry beacon on 70cm.

IN ADDITION to this flight, the group will be launching a second balloon ON THE SAME DAY approximately 1 hour later at 9AM AEST. This second balloon, designated HORUS 27 will be carrying a video camera payload, as well as a second APRS tracker and RTTY 70cm beacon.

Both flights are currently predicted to last between 3-4 hours and generally are expected to trend NE from Mildura. Anyone chasing the repeater balloon as part of the WIA transceiver competition will need to be completely self sufficient and experienced in remote area travel. There is no cellular coverage out there, and you will be well outside of VHF radio range of Mildura (or any other population centre of note).

The HORUS project team look forward to meeting everyone at the conference and dont forget to attend the technical presentations on Saturday where the HORUS group is going to give you an inside look at the project, where it has been and where it is going!

Best Regards,
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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK3ZDX » Wed May 23, 2012 3:51 pm

VK5GR wrote:Both flights are currently predicted to last between 3-4 hours and generally are expected to trend NE from Mildura. Anyone chasing the repeater balloon as part of the WIA transceiver competition will need to be completely self sufficient and experienced in remote area travel. There is no cellular coverage out there, and you will be well outside of VHF radio range of Mildura (or any other population centre of note).


Just from local knowledge, a 4WD is almost a must as the roads are very corrugated and in some areas very sandy. If we experience rain in the area most of the dirt roads in NSW will become closed.

For road closures in the Wentworth Shire can be viewed at - http://www.wentworth.nsw.gov.au/services/RoadClosures.php

As per usual it will be great weather in Mildura!!

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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK5PJ » Wed May 23, 2012 9:02 pm

Hi Grant,

VK5GR wrote:Folks,
The Project Horus group has some breaking news on the High Altitude Balloon Flights currently planned for this weekend!

IN ADDITION to this flight, the group will be launching a second balloon ON THE SAME DAY approximately 1 hour later at 9AM AEST. This second balloon, designated HORUS 27 will be carrying a video camera payload, as well as a second APRS tracker and RTTY 70cm beacon.
Grant VK5GR


Will the RTTY telemetry frequencies be different between the two baloons or should we expect some QRM when both are in the air?

Regards,
Peter
(will be at home with 70cm yagi pointing at Mildura to track them I hope)
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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK5GR » Wed May 23, 2012 10:35 pm

VK5PJ wrote:Will the RTTY telemetry frequencies be different between the two baloons or should we expect some QRM when both are in the air?


The beacons will be on different channels. HORUS with the voice repeater will be 434.075. DARKSIDE which will be the video/camera payload will be I expect on 434.650 (not confirmed yet - I need to talk to Terry when he joins me in Mildura on Friday night).

We will be hoping for the ground stations to split up and track different balloons - some tracking HORUS and some tracking DARKSIDE. That way we can have a data feed for both of them (although we are going to need to get an idea of whats coming back via a HF radio circuit as there is no cellular where we are going).

Each HORUS chase car is being set up to track both of them at any rate.

Will let you know more when it is finalized.

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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK5QI » Thu May 24, 2012 11:35 am

I can confirm that the Horus 27 telemetry payload will be on 434.650MHz USB.
You will be need to select 'DARKSIDE' from the drop-down payload list in dl-fldigi to be able to decode it.

Horus 26 (the WIA launch) will be on 434.075MHz USB, and you will need to select 'HORUS' from the dropdown list.

Here's an image of the telemetry payload that will be flying on Horus 27: http://i.imgur.com/ckyMs.jpg
I just need to put a GPS antenna on it and it'll be ready to go!

Given we will be out of NextG range for the majority of the chase, the more people receiving and decoding both balloons, the better. You may want to coordinate who is receiving who using the balloon repeater.

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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK5PJ » Thu May 24, 2012 2:26 pm

Thanks Mark,
VK5QI wrote:I can confirm that the Horus 27 telemetry payload will be on 434.650MHz USB.
You will be need to select 'DARKSIDE' from the drop-down payload list in dl-fldigi to be able to decode it.
Horus 26 (the WIA launch) will be on 434.075MHz USB, and you will need to select 'HORUS' from the dropdown list.
Given we will be out of NextG range for the majority of the chase, the more people receiving and decoding both balloons, the better. You may want to coordinate who is receiving who using the balloon repeater.
- Mark VK5QI

I will try and track both from home using two 70cm radios and fire up the old laptop for the second channel, not sure how much I will hear from the Barossa but it should keep me busy for a few hours LOL. Now I have to work out how to use the repeater at the same time :-)

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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK5GR » Thu May 24, 2012 4:46 pm

We have now updated the group's web blog with details about this weekend's flights. Take a look here: http://projecthorus.org/?page_id=1470

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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK5ZD » Sun May 27, 2012 8:08 am

Mildura_Flight.png
Looks like the chase vehicles might be in for a rough ride!
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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK3MEG » Sun May 27, 2012 10:07 am

coming into melb soon link for tracking here
http://spacenear.us/tracker/
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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK5GR » Sun May 27, 2012 6:25 pm

Firstly, Project Horus wishes to say a big thank you to the Sunraysia Radio Club and Wireless Institute of Australia for inviting us to attend the WIA AGM and Technical Symposium, and for supporting our group launching from the Mildura area. The group is overwhelmed with the response we received to our presentation and the balloon flights on the Sunday.

The Project Horus group is happy to report that both balloons have flown successfully and both were recovered, over 140km NW of of Mildura.

HORUS 26 (HORUS) made 35470m
HORUS 27 (DARKSIDE) made 36732m

We will be creating a video about the trip and posting the blogs after the team returns to Adelaide and catches up on sleep :-)

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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK3BQ » Sun May 27, 2012 7:29 pm



on the vertical from Melbourne today, this was just before midday, the balloon burst shortly after this bit of video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdKqlUcCyh4
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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK5KX » Mon May 28, 2012 2:55 pm

Thankyou for the U-Tube post (that was me chatting with Matt), I had a great day up at the top of Accomodation Hill (near Truro, SA), this is 300km from Mildura and the Horus balloons ended up approx 150km to the NE of Mildura in the end. I managed to maintain a tracking solution on 'Darkside' (Horus 27) down to an altitude of about 4km :D

To chat through the repeater on Horus 26, I was using an FT-847 in split mode, this was feeding a Diamond SG9600 antenna placed on the roof of the Coaster using a magnetic base, so nothing elaborate was required to access the X-band repeater.

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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK5KX » Mon May 28, 2012 5:17 pm

Oop's, Have now realized you can edit post's. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:


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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK5MTM » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:43 pm

VK5GR wrote:
We will be creating a video about the trip and posting the blogs after the team returns to Adelaide and catches up on sleep :-)



Hi Grant.

Has this video been uploaded yet, and if so, where? I'm keen as to see it! :D
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Re: UPDATE: HORUS-26 & 27 Balloon Repeater This Sunday @ WIA

Postby VK5PJ » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:30 pm

Hello 5MTM

VK5MTM wrote:
VK5GR wrote:We will be creating a video about the trip and posting the blogs after the team returns to Adelaide and catches up on sleep :-)

Hi Grant.
Has this video been uploaded yet, and if so, where? I'm keen as to see it! :D


I spoke to Grant while he was mobile back from a trip up the river, it would seem a few of the Horus team have been unwell in the past few weeks so their time has been taken up with 'recovery' as they burnt the candle well and truely from both ends to make the Mildura flights happen.

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