2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK2XTC » Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:32 pm

I had been working on my mobile yagi mount (for my Bunnings Special) over the last couple of weekends , interrupted by 400mmm of rain.
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It seems it may be all in vain as another East Coast low is due to spin up on Sunday with a further 150mm forecast.
So as a fall back I'll use the home station and try some data contacts.

I'd like to ask a newby question , what is the structure of a valid contact using JT65, as the rules state callsign plus square locator, " plus two further digits that cannot be predicted the the other station "
I'm not clear the structure of a valid contact in that mode.



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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK3KGR » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:53 pm

I will be operating from my normal spot at Clear Mountain on Saturday afternoon provided the weather is Ok

6m, 2m, 432,1296 and 10 GHz.

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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK4CZ » Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:43 am

Not looking too good for being /P in SE VK4 on Sunday. Other east coast sites probably no better. :thumbdown:
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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK3AP » Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:59 am

VK2XTC wrote:I had been working on my mobile yagi mount (for my Bunnings Special) over the last couple of weekends , interrupted by 400mmm of rain.



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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK3ALB » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:58 am

I'll be trying a bit of roving without the caravan of courage weather permitting.

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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK3QI » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:05 pm

Lou,

I will operating from home this weekend, but I note that you are likely to be on Tower Road (QF21HV70), so there is a good chance that we can get through on the higher bands from that location.

I have 6 metres through to 24 Ghz setup ready to go.

Hope to work you sometime.

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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK3ALB » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:31 pm

Hi Peter,

Yes the outlook in your direction is very good indeed and (weather permitting) we'll be ready to go at zero hour from that location. We'll have 2m through 10GHz.
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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK3QI » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:14 pm

Lou (and others),

Are we agreed to all use 3398.150 instead of 3400.150 as the operating frequency for this weekend?

I am not sure whether any NBN cells have actually been implemented yet in the Melbourne and surrounding area.

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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK3YE » Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:06 am

Am planning to be out this afternoon on 2m SSB/CW/FM only from a good location near Frankston.

The plot from the site shows a good 270 degree coverage to most places from Geelong. Gippsland,
traditionally a weak area for me but essential for grid squares, should be workable.
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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK3ZAZ » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:11 am

VK4CZ wrote:Not looking too good for being /P in SE VK4 on Sunday. Other east coast sites probably no better. :thumbdown:
WX Winter FD 20160618.JPG

Wednesday sky blue

Thursday CAT Angel Flight to Bairnsdale cancelled

Friday even crapier Fog at YHML 20C at Bairnsdale could not depart

Jane Bunn says Pacific Low gunna drop 150mm again all way down to Bass Strait.

http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/4day_col.shtml

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Good luck guys staying home here :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK2ZRH » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:52 am

Best wishes to those hardy souls venturing forth on the Field Day this weekend.

Never mind the pessimists. :wink:

Weather in the west is to be fine and cool. 8)

Remember - it's about having fun in the great outdoors. :lol:

Don't drive through any floodwaters. :shock:
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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK3ALB » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:46 am

VK3QI wrote:Lou (and others),

Are we agreed to all use 3398.150 instead of 3400.150 as the operating frequency for this weekend?

I am not sure whether any NBN cells have actually been implemented yet in the Melbourne and surrounding area.

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Hi Peter, yes we'll use 3398 this weekend
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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK2AZ » Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:13 am

I don't see any rules around permitted liaison.

Can you use spotters, loggers or even repeaters to liaise with others?

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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by ADMIN » Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:37 am

VK2IUW wrote:I don't see any rules around permitted liaison.

Can you use spotters, loggers or even repeaters to liaise with others?
http://www.wia.org.au/members/contests/generalrules/
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Despite that, there has been a demonstrated lack of interest (I don't dare use the 'a' word) in using VK Logger during VHF Field days over the years, and Contest Radar took over the role of proximity awareness anyway.
Apparently it was too hard to create/update a Logger profile to indicate where you would be and what bands you would be active on.
(The real value was being able to generate distance & TN bearing information, but so few embraced this.)

I would just use Contest Radar instead, and forget about VK Logger.
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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK3YE » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:54 am

The video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jOIEGuPa4E



Good activity locally from local home stations, but not many portables out. Apart from VK7JG no stations over 150km were heard.
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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK4ADC » Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:19 am

I didn't go portable yesterday due to a number of considerations, including the weather forecast here in SE Qld, but the outcome had I gone to the effort would have possibly driven me to give up participation in these events completely. I worked a total of 11 callsigns in 41 contacts over 8 hours from the relative comfort of the home QTH - a very disappointing participation level from my point of view. The 2 hour re-work period was the only saving grace.

Historically, I know that the Winter FD is activity always lower than the Spring or Summer events but this strikes me as just too low and whether to bother next year.
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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK4CZ » Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:46 am

I hear you Doug... I had started to plan an activation for this weekend a little over a month or so back (the required timeline to work in with the family diary), and it became very evident that activity levels in SE VK4 were going to be very poor when I looked at this thread (you did originally say you weren't operating), and then this was further reinforced through conversations with a couple of the 'regular' FD stations who also advised that they had prior commitments that had to take precedence. So I stopped planning.

From reports and the activity I've seen this morning, it looks like what was the reality.

But the good news is that for those in SE VK4 the upcoming 23-on-23 + MAD is just over 4 weeks away and you should start planning for it as there is already a number of stations that have advised they'll be active... and the more the merrier!
http://www.vklogger.com/forum/viewtopic ... 495#p61495
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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK3AP » Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:59 am

I didn't hear many Melbourne stations but gave a few numbers on 2 and 70 to 3KQ in Blackwood forest at 250km away. I'm too far for anyone on 1296 but had it running all weekend nonetheless.
Swung the beams to Canberra and made a few contacts, plus Wagga Wagga. Not a boo from Albury.
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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK3ALB » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:26 pm

ADMIN wrote:
Despite that, there has been a demonstrated lack of interest (I don't dare use the 'a' word) in using VK Logger during VHF Field days over the years, and Contest Radar took over the role of proximity awareness anyway.
Apparently it was too hard to create/update a Logger profile to indicate where you would be and what bands you would be active on.
(The real value was being able to generate distance & TN bearing information, but so few embraced this.)
I have to agree with you Adam. We tried very hard to steer away from making CR (Contest Radar) a copy of VKlogger. Whilst we've had requests for higher resolution on the contest radar map the point of CR was always to be a really simple tool to see who is out there and roughly where they are - no more than that. CR was born of the fact that many ops do not keep their Op Info up to date in the logger so it was difficult to plan field day events. As you have already pointed out, Doug VK4ADC spent a lot of time trying to make an easy to use tool for the field day operators but it still relied on a small effort from each of us to keep our VKlogger OpInfo details up to date.

I would encourage people to maintain their logger OpInfo (it only takes a couple of minutes every year or perhaps every field day). In the end these things all help us to make contacts and to make us known to others with similar interests.

The other thing to remember is the VKlogger Mapping tool is a very powerful and sophisticated thing. You can find other operators (if their OpInfo is correct and up to date) you can evaluate field locations before you step away from the computer. CR is not a patch on the VKlogger Mapping tool and I would recommend the serious field operator should try to get to know how the tools of the VKlogger can be used to help their planning for field day events.

A great place to start is in the Help section of the VKlogger forum - Just click the Board Index link at the top of this page and look for Help - VKlogger.
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Re: 2016 Winter VHF/UHF Field Day

Post by VK4EA » Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:04 pm

VK3ALB wrote:
ADMIN wrote:
Despite that, there has been a demonstrated lack of interest (I don't dare use the 'a' word) in using VK Logger during VHF Field days over the years, and Contest Radar took over the role of proximity awareness anyway.
Apparently it was too hard to create/update a Logger profile to indicate where you would be and what bands you would be active on.
(The real value was being able to generate distance & TN bearing information, but so few embraced this.)

I would just use Contest Radar instead, and forget about VK Logger.
I have to agree with you Adam. We tried very hard to steer away from making CR (Contest Radar) a copy of VKlogger. Whilst we've had requests for higher resolution on the contest radar map the point of CR was always to be a really simple tool to see who is out there and roughly where they are - no more than that. CR was born of the fact that many ops do not keep their Op Info up to date in the logger so it was difficult to plan field day events. As you have already pointed out, Doug VK4ADC spent a lot of time trying to make an easy to use tool for the field day operators but it still relied on a small effort from each of us to keep our VKlogger OpInfo
This weekend wasn't going to happen for me due to the weather and a pending exam for which I should be preparing for rather than trolling through the forum :-)

Personally I try and use theVKLogger mapping facility as much as possible while out and about. It gives me a good idea of headings which is oh so important at 10/24/47Ghz. Whilst I can see the benefit of Contest Radar, Lou is quite correct it's not a patch on the functionality provided by VKLogger (thank you Adam for the effort).

To counter the 'a' factor, I always encourage operators that are known to be participating to update their /P profile. In this time of the all pervasive things and devices, I not sure why there is resistance to do so. Portable Internet connectivity is easy and cheap these days.............
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